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Jan. 23rd, 2008 | 10:40 am
posted by: jeep_gir1 in romany_gypsy

gipsylilya, could you please transcribe this to English?


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history repeats itself..

Jan. 14th, 2008 | 08:49 pm
posted by: jeep_gir1 in romany_gypsy


Abdullah Gul
President of Turkey
     I wish to add my voice to the growing worldwide
protests  over the threatened destruction of Europe's oldest
Romani community.
     The Sulukule quarter, named after a landmark water
tower in Istanbul, has been settled by Roma for over a
thousand years. I had the priviledge to visit there in
l960 and again in l972, following the lst World Romani
Congress in London.
      I ask you to note that l453 the right of Roma to remain
 there was confirmed by Sultan Mehmed, following his conquest
of Constantinople.
      Presently, this ancient mahala is home to some
3,000 Roma and sustains a flourishing music and dance
     The Sulukule Association for the Enrichment of Roma Culture,
supported by NGOs and university academics, has draw attention
to the need to preserve this quarter as a unique living heritage
site, important to the lO million Romani people throughout
     I can vouch for the great value Sulukule has as a centre
for Romani culture and social life, and call upon you to intervene
to stop the bulldozing of this community.
    It is clear that the main motivation for this destruction is to
make a huge profit from demolishing the present houses, forcing
Roma to go to another location 40 km outside the city and
building new houses, affordable only to wealthy buyers.
    I therefore oppose the Sulukule urban reneweal project which
ignores the Vienna Convention for the Protection of World Culture
and Natural Heritage and ask to bring this project to an end
before any further damage is done.
    Your sincerely,
    Grattan Puxon
    General Secretary 1971-l981
    World Romani Congress

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A Day to Remember

Nov. 19th, 2007 | 06:09 pm
posted by: jeep_gir1 in romany_gypsy

Daughter's Nov. 11 chat with veteran brought tears to our eyes

When my daughter Jillian was eight, we took her to the then-Museum of the Regiments on Remembrance Day.

My wife's dad and uncle fought in the Second World War: Her dad John, on a corvette guarding convoys in the North Atlantic, her uncle Clayton fighting his way up the Italian boot, cheerfully carving up the enemy with his bayonet and sending home souvenirs of his kills (unit patches and Iron Crosses) to his mom, many of which are now on display in the small-town Legion where he grew up.

John's eyes would get misty when he talked about the friends he made who never came back.

Clayt never got misty. Ever.

John joined the Royal Canadian Navy partly because he was a gentle soul and had no desire to kill face to face.

And because he figured he would survive the war intact or die.

The thought of going through life on crutches or in a wheelchair horrified this talented, semi-pro baseball player.

Clayt, a not-so-gentle-soul, apparently took to war like Rosie O'Donnell to a box of doughnuts.

When he died, on his coffin, there was a picture of him taken in Italy, grinning, sitting on a captured German motorcycle.

What few in the congregation knew was how Clayt acquired it.

Tired of his army issue motorbike breaking down while he delivered dispatches -- and even more tired of his German counterpart on the other side of the front line laughing at him as he motored past -- Clayt solved two problems at once.

He got up real early one morning, snuck across, killed the laughing German and stole his motorcycle.

There were certain members of this generation that you definitely didn't want to mess with.

My wife and I grew up around veterans and we worried that it might be difficult to transmit our sense of gratitude for the freedoms we enjoy to our kids because such veterans were getting scarce.

Jillian never got to know John or Clayt.

She barely remembered the man with the burned face from church, Garnett Trivett.
I used to sing in the men's choir with him, and had noticed the burn scars but never asked.

Only at his funeral did I find out he was burned when a German 88 shell sliced through the turret of his Sherman tank in the Norman bocage and it went up in flames, fully living up to the nickname given to it by its bitter crews, who called it The Ronson, after the cigarette lighter.

That day at the museum, we went inside and moved from exhibit to exhibit.
Ahead was the slightly bent figure of a white-haired man in the blue blazer above gray flannels, Legion crest on one side, an array of service medals heavy on the other. My daughter marched up to him.

We adopted her from a Romanian orphanage when she was three.

Ethnically, she's a Gypsy -- that's right, loud colors, long skirts, tambourines, fortune-telling, the works -- and we used to try to ensure she knew something of her culture until she sat us down and made us stop, explaining that she was a Canadian now.

But she remembered enough to stride confidently up to the veteran to ask, "Did you fight in the war?" He smiled and allowed as he had.

She stuck out her hand, looking solemn.

"Then I have to thank you," she said.

"I'm a Gypsy.

"Do you know what Hitler and the Nazis planned for Gypsies? He was going to kill all of us. The Jews call what happened to them during the war The Holocaust. Gypsies call it The Devouring", she told him.

"So if you hadn't stopped them, I wouldn't be here... Thank you beating them so I could be born and, you know, live and stuff."

Turns out we needn't have worried about Jillian being able to relate to acts of remembrance on Nov. 11. We should have worried about bringing enough Kleenex. Between the vet, my wife and me, we went through a bunch.

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Gypsy children portrays from Chachipe contest

Oct. 8th, 2007 | 02:31 pm
posted by: gipsylilya in romany_gypsy

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Dancing Gypsy Women

Oct. 3rd, 2007 | 12:13 am
posted by: gipsylilya in romany_gypsy

Gipsy women have been always considered to be beautyful and attractive, and Gipsy dancers are an alive symbol of grace and passion. New picture series of Russian artist and ethnographer Nickolai Bessonov show the truth of those considerations.

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Science Careers of Romane Sisters

Jun. 3rd, 2007 | 07:49 pm
posted by: gipsylilya in romany_gypsy

Speaking about Romane intellectuals in Russia we must undoubtedly mention sisters Pankovs, Natalia and Lubov. Natalia was a chemist, Lubov is a biologist. Both sisters had very high national consciousness and often said that they couldn’t let themselves do anything blamable as they represented their people.

During the WWII sisters Pankovs showed themselves as real patriots. Luba and Natasha were daughters of Nickolay Pankov (also an outstanding Rom, who is famous, for example, for his translation of a Pushkin’s poem “Gypsies” to Romani language). The girls’ father wanted them to receive higher education. But when Hitler’s Germany declared the war to the USSR, the sisters left their studies and began working in Moscow armour plants. “It’s not time for studies now,” the girls told their father. Working to the point of exhaustion, the Romane girls made shells for rocket projectors.

They made up for it after the war and both graduated from institutes. You can read their short biographies below.

Natalia Pankova (1924-1991). A Research Assistant of the Institute of Organic Subroducts and Dyes, where she had worked for 35 years. Her professional career was successful. For example, she has authored 30 advanced developments of cyanide dyes (she received the inventor certificates for them). Natalia had many talents: she sang and danced very well, painted with pencils and water-colours.

Lubov Pankova was born in 1925. She’s a PhD in Biology in the field of human and animal physiology. She have been working mainly in the area of clinical physiology. She’s a Senior Research Assistant of a physiological laboratory of the Central Institute of Expert Examination of Labour Capacity and Labour Organization for Disabled. Her researches were on machinery of intercentral relations and their abnormalities and compensations. Lubov also worked for the Academy of Science of USSR and pedagogical institutes, where she gave lectures on human and animal physiology, higher nervous activity and anatomic and physiological peculiarities of children and teenagers. Moreover, she authored and co-authored several study books on those subjects and more than 50 scientific works which were published mostly in central press. Lubov Pankova has done a lot for preserving and recording national history. She has written her memoirs which are waiting for publication.

The Pankovs sisters are representatives of an old famous Russian Romani dynasty which gave many outstanding Gipsies to the world.


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Virtual exhibit: a Romano artist Zsolt Vary

Apr. 23rd, 2007 | 10:06 pm
posted by: gipsylilya in romany_gypsy

A new virtual exhibit is published in a Gipsy web-magazine ‘Romany Kultury i Dziipen’: pictures of a Romano artist from Hungary, Zsolt Vari.
The favourite genre of Vari is portrait. The key detail of his portraits is a look. A model may look at you, by you, to the side, even hide her/his eyes, but the look remains a key detail.
Faces of models are both realistic and mistic. They are lit up not with light but with sences.

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Gipsy National Symbols

Apr. 20th, 2007 | 11:25 pm
posted by: khamoro_chay in romany_gypsy

Gipsies have a flag, an antheme, a National Day and symbols.

The Gipsy flag contains two stripes, blue and green, and a red wheel. The blue stripe mean heavens, not only the sky, but also seeking God. The green stripe mean earth (covered with grass), because ‘the earth under Gipsy’s feet is his motherland’.
The wheel is a symbol of traditional, nomadic way of life. It is red like blood of Gipsies murdered in the past. But red is the color not only of memory, but also of joy, because Gipsies enjoy life!
The wheel lays on both stripes because Gipsies go by both a path of the Earth and a path of the Soul.

The Gipsy anthem is ‘Djelem, djelem’. Here is it’s common translation:

‘I went, I went by long roads, I met, I met happy Gipsies. Hey, Gipsies, where are you going from, with your tents, by lucky roads? many years ago I had a big family, but Black Legions murdered it… Gipsies of the world, come on, with me, Gipsy roads are open! It’s time to rise for Gipsies, and we’ll rise if we act!’

The main Gipsy symbols are a red or golden wheel and a horseshoe.

The National Gipsy Day is April, 8.

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I wanna say something to Roma and Gadzhe

Apr. 20th, 2007 | 01:43 am
posted by: khamoro_chay in romany_gypsy

We all know that there are many Slavs in Europe: Russians, Ukranians, Belarussians, Czechs, Rusins, Slovaks, Slovenes, Serbians, Montenegrins, Bosnians. They all are Slavs and they all are Europeans, that’s true. But also we know, that’s not all of Europeans are Slavs.

The same situation is when we say about Gipsies and Roma.

There are many Roma peoples in the world: Russka Roma, Kelderari, Ursari, Lovari, Kyryms, Servi etc. They all are Roma and they all are Gipsies. But not all of Gipsies are Roma, there also exist Kale (Kalos), Sinti, Mugat (Luli), Travellers and some others. They all are Gipsies but they are not Roma, they mind being called Roma. When we say Roma in meaning “all Gipsies”, we offends them. I can say it as I have an experience of talking to them. They don’t want to be Roma. More, they feel hurt that everybody talk about Roma and nobody talk about them (this is how they often take the situation).

So, I, as a journalist, use the word “Gipsies” telling about all Gipsies and use the word “Roma” telling about Roma Gipsies.
I’m Romny. And I’m Gipsy. And, sorry for my French, go to a long erotic tour everybody who think that “Gipsy” is a bad word. It is a word for my nation, so for me, for a Gipsy woman, that’s a good word. I’m proud to be Gipsy!


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Gypsy Day

Apr. 8th, 2007 | 11:31 pm
posted by: gipsylilya in romany_gypsy

Today is Gypsy Day, the national day of all Gypsies of the world.

Not so many people knows, that such a day exists.

Gypsies also have their own antheme, flag and simbol.

The Gypsy flag contains two stripes, blue and green, and a red wheel.
The blue stripe is a symbol of heavens, of seeking for God.
The green stripe is a symbol of grass. Gypsies used to camp in places where grass were.
The red wheel is a symbol of ancient way of life (when all Gypsies were nomadic) and of Gypsy blood which was shedded by murderers. The red wheel lays on both stripes because Gypsies go by both a path of the Earth and a path of the Soul.

The Gypsy antheme is 'Djelem djelem', it has not the only melody, everybody can sing it as he/she wants.

The main Gypsy symbols are a red or golden wheel and a horseshoe.

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